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SPEAKER_00
Hello, Afu, how are you? I'm good, how are we? Yeah, today we're going to have our normal mindset conversation. So the conversation today is about process, the rushing process. So a lot of people want to rush because they just feel like they're not yet there, right? And sometimes that rush seems not to get what is always needed. What says you?
SPEAKER_01
Well, I think that's a really good point, and I think a lot of people when they do post through success, they post about the results. However, it's especially important to understand that things take time, and in order to succeed, you have to take the stairs and not the elevator.
SPEAKER_00
I like that taking the stairs and not the elevator.
SPEAKER_01
So even though the stairs may seem more tedious and may seem like quote unquote hard work, it's important because at the end of the stairs you feel a bit sore, meaning that you can develop, you feel the experiences that are needed to develop.
SPEAKER_00
Right. So the answer is it's not worth it, right? Take your time, follow the stairs, learn the process so that at least you can be able to avoid making the same mistakes as somebody who would have rushed it, right? Exactly.
SPEAKER_01
Exactly, and then from there you can share your experiences to inspire others.
SPEAKER_00
Absolutely. So the other point is that in the process of getting what needs to be gotten, people fear failure. So, and I know that we always talk about this fear of failure. What can you tell somebody who's afraid to live where he or she is to do something that can make him or her move forward?
SPEAKER_01
Well, I think a lot of people fear failure, rejection, all kinds of stuff like that. And just think about it. If you're maybe applying for a job, the what's the worst that can happen? The worst they can say is no. And failure, like it's okay to fail, but it's not okay to like feel sorry for yourself and differ meaning that failure. We must use those failures to uh turn it into something new and to learn from them so that we can achieve our goals.
SPEAKER_00
Excellent. I love I love that. So you're trying to say that failure should be an incentive.
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, like don't go out of your way to fail, but it's inevitable. So then use what you've learned, what doesn't work, and what does work to improve.
SPEAKER_00
Excellent. Don't go out of your way to fail, but don't be afraid of failure because it's part of the process. And I think the last part, which I think is so interesting and is happening nowadays, that is always this question of when you guide somebody, right? He starts off with he or she starts off by saying, But I don't have money to start. How do you demystify that?
SPEAKER_01
Well, I think what we have to do is start small, and whether that means maybe watching YouTube tutorials or uh maybe seeking mentorship or even volunteering yourself.
SPEAKER_00
Yeah, uh I like that word, innovative volunteerism, right?
SPEAKER_01
Exactly, using the principles of hashtag innovative volunteerism, then you can be able to find ways to start, and then once you do develop money from using what you have, then you can expand. A lot of people tend to think that you have to start big, but we must work our way up.
SPEAKER_00
Yeah, I think there is uh one conversation that we had, and I think there was some a young person who commented that okay, it's because she has the means, that's why she can talk like that. And then I responded saying, No, it's not about having the means, it's about having the will. Right, you can still have the means, and then you can still not do what needs to be done. So, what do you say about the power of having the will first uh before any other thing?
SPEAKER_01
Well, simply speaking, it's it's the power of you, right? So I love that.
SPEAKER_00
The power of you.
SPEAKER_01
So if you feel inspired and you develop the drive and the conviction to go out and achieve your goals, right? No matter what predicament you're in, you will find a way to make it happen. Right. And the world needs your expertise no matter what it is, right? But in order for us to benefit from that, you must be able to understand what you bring to the table. And once you understand that, you'll be able to leverage that in whichever way you see benefits your community.
SPEAKER_00
I love that. And then the table part, you always bring it up, which I think is so instructional and also so educative. Sometimes people say, I'm not invited to the table. So I always say, Thank you. Be the table, be the table, create value somewhere so that you are needed, right? Not you needing people, people need you, and that means you need to sacrifice, you need to to use Afu's words, lock in, put the energy and do what is needed. So, Afu, lastly, as we go now, one of the aspects that I would like to hear from you is this aspect of attitude. Yeah, um, a lot of people, brilliant, intelligent, uh usually sometimes have this attitude of disrespect, arrogant, and they lose opportunities. So, what advice do you have to give Sorge?
SPEAKER_01
Well, let me just provide a practical example. So, over my summer job, which was with um our local municipal police.
SPEAKER_00
Yeah, you have to give something something small from that, okay? Something small. Anyway, that was a joke.
SPEAKER_01
Anyway, we're we're we're joking. But in we used to go to a CrossFit gym, which is a training gym. Yeah. And at the end, they would offer six people, like one for a year free gym membership. And the people who they offered it to, it wasn't necessarily the strongest, the fastest, it was the people who had the most humility, who were willing to learn and who were coachable.
SPEAKER_00
Humility, yeah.
SPEAKER_01
And some people were like, oh, why didn't I get it? I'm super fast, I'm super good at XYZ sports. It just came down to coachability and being able to learn and being able to admit that you're wrong and to learn from our mistakes, which comes back from failure. Being okay to not be the instructor but to be the listener.
SPEAKER_00
I love that. That is very, very important. I pick two words from there: humility and coachability. So to be coachable is actually being uh championed at the moment in the space of new jobs in the future with the advent of artificial intelligence to be the core aspect, which is part of what I call uh the principal leverage of emotional intelligence. What does it mean? At some point, because of the advent of artificial intelligence, people will not only get jobs because they have the qualifications, it will be about soft skills, soft skills, and one of these soft skills that every hiring manager looks after or looks onto is are you able, are you cushable? And I think that is quite very important. So that cushability becomes important. So what's the last word for us? We ran off.
SPEAKER_01
That my last word to everyone who's watching this is just do it, you know, leverage. Just do it.
SPEAKER_00
That's your slogan, right? Well, it's Nike's slogan. Nike, but you pick it out, right?
SPEAKER_01
Yeah, I love to I love to echo, and I think that it's especially important to leverage what you have and leverage what you're good at in order to make a difference.
SPEAKER_00
But I think we can't we can't run away from that. I want to pick up your bread before we run up. That leverage. Leverage is very, very important, right? Because to become something, you have to leverage something. So I just wanted to pinpoint on that.
SPEAKER_01
So yes, so for example, like in terms of leveraging, leverage your time, right? Sleeping in an extra two hours may seem nice, but maybe learning how to, I don't know, um, enhance carpentry or learn how to sew or learn how to um bricklay, right? Things that like that or to do weldry. Exactly. Well, exactly. No matter what you're interested in, there is definitely a way that you can turn it into social enterprise, helping your community, but also helping yourself and helping others economically as well.
SPEAKER_00
Excellent. Hi five, man. That was a very good one. Have a great day, and just to add to what she said leverage, be crucial, be humble, and then your future will not just be bright, but your dreams will be far more valid than you ever thought. Until then, it's been me, Anafu on Mindset Spot.